Can Anybody Find Anything But Hot Air in the Climate Bill?
This question is asked sincerely by a lifelong enviro. A supporter of Al Gore. But this bill appears to have been written by the coal companies based on 25 year old ideas, many of which were accepted by G.W. Bush the Moron President.
The whole idea of the market based solution — the cap and trade solution — making a market in pollution permits — maybe having them brokered through a firm like Enron — which I think did actually broker some of these permits for a while — that idea is 25 years old. It is not change. It’s just slapdash legislation based on making the old dregs by bygone ideas look like a new bill by updating the year and putting a new cover on it. It’s like the old news that CBS, NBC, and ABC purvey — stuff from a few weeks ago — offered today as your "news".
Nobody in America is willing to do any part of their job anymore. It’s a nation of AWOL officials and AWOL staffers and AWOL employees.
If they wanted a real climate bill, they would have included funding for the hydrogen technology. Ways to electrolytically dissociate water efficiently. Ways to store hydrogen efficiently. Ways to burn hydrogen in fuel cells, or in turbines (possibly combined with methane to make hythane (R).
There would have been a huge push for the sorts of thing T. Boone Pickens is recommending. Natural gas powered trains would have been in the mix — and transcontinental tracks for same on the median strips of East West Highways.
Geothermal would have played a huge role. It is a very rich power source in some places, always on, not like solar or wind. Hawaii could power all seaborne freight in the Pacific with Geothermal based Hydrogen Fuel Cell Gas.
Tidal Hydro would have been in the bill.
Micro-scale wind generators (egg-beater style) would have beeb there.
The National Energy Spine (super efficient cable from coast to coast) would have been there. This creates conservation by allowing energy to be wheeled from coast to coast so peak loads can be met with cheap energy on both coasts.
Instead we get the ancient mantra "Let’s find a market based solution (that way G.W. Bush The Moron President, and the Republicans can be happy). No breakthroughs please! No movement away from fossil fuels, and certainly no less coal or oil! We’ll just do this with financial manipulations, sort of Enron style, with pollution permits, create a playground for the K Street lobbyists, make it look like we are doing something because what we do is so complicated administratively.That way we can do nothing — and nobody will know.
With or without cap and trade the carbon footprint of the energy plants was bound to be legislatively reduced in future years. Cap and trade just bring Federal Pre-emption and knocks out the states ability to legislate on this matter. It’s a form of state legal dis-ablement. It’s a form of permission to just keep on keeping on — more of the same.
The climate bill looks like a 100% perfect fraud, from the gitgo. Mr. Axelrod thinks it has a fairly good chance in the Senate because of the writing changes that were made at the last minute in the House, and on this he’s probably right. Coal can see when it has a good deal. The whole issue now will be off the table for the next 10 or 15 years, and there are 10,000 ways that the "caps" can be removed or made more lenient, triggered by all sorts of extremely complex micro-pico-nano regulations that only the coal companies have time to figure out and understand and know how to lobby with. They can get out of the caps. They get a vacation for 15 years. They get out from under state laws. Whee ! … this pollution stuff is easy!
All politicians are politicians. Nature is always Nature. So the Canute story is always apt. The vanity and the lies and the fraud never actually trumps nature, so you can count of on the climate to keep warming up and the CO2 levels to keep going up and the sea level and storm damage to keep going up. If we truly wish to stop being a hypocrite nation, we’ve got to get rid of all politicians. Put a truly independent agency in charge of climate change mitigation — something like the Federal Reserve or the FCC or the NRC — it’s got to be able to make and implement rules smoothly and quickly. It’s got to be run by Chairmen with long terms of office, at least 10 years, 15 would be better. The Chairman has to be mission focused, not politics focused. If can’t get around the Canute Problem (The problem that wise King Canute taught his ministers about based upon knowing that Politics never trumps Nature)., we can’t deal with the climate change issue. This new bill, is just more hot air. Maybe you can find something in it and tell me about what you think is there. Anyhow that’s my question, asked by a true blue enviro, an AlGorista (with rhythm, hence an algorhythm, I’m a poet, I know it, float like a butterfly effect, sting like a karma-effect).
For Dana the Master of Science — I know that H2 is not a mobile source fuel and never will be. For fixed point fuel cells, no problem, especially if mixed as Hythane (H2 + CH4). Here is Gao Bwo Fu, Doctus Juris, Magister Plutus to tell you read my book, "Cost-Effective Ways to Comply with the New Clean Air Act", or my articles published by Herald-Mail.
H2 is not a fuel for mobile sources, but it’s fine for fixed point sources. If you want conversation why do you block all e-mail so I have to use this question extension to answer you? You can reach me by e-mail real easily, master of science (and where is your 600 page book on the subject of hydrogen burning — cause mine is in the libraries). Never smarty-pants a smarty-pants.
Scepticism is next to Godlicism. I know it.
This science-thinker atheist says, "Bless you, keep those good questions coming!"
Yes. For example, it will help increase fuel efficiency by 25% by 2020.
http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/paltman/americans_save_on_fuel_bills_u.html
It requires that utilities produce 20% of their energy from renewable sources and increased efficiency by 2020.
It invests $90 billion in energy efficiency and renewable energy by 2025.
It establishes new standards for building efficiency, requiring new buildings to be 30% more efficient in 2012 and 50% more efficient in 2016.
It directs EPA and the State Department to use 5% of the allowances to secure agreements from developing nations to prevent tropical deforestation.
It’s certainly not a perfect bill, but it’s pretty good, and it’s the best we’re going to get in the forseeable future. Plus it’s much better to have a framework in place which we can improve upon in the future than to have nothing at all.
See the link below for a useful summary.
Please, critique and give tips on my essay?
thanks in advance…i shall try to answer as many of your questions in the future…x
oh yeah, i am in grade 7 (year 
if that helps
ok…so basically it is an essay to compare the similarities and differences between feudal europe and feudal japan.
Although they are a vast distance from each other, both Medieval Europe and Medieval Japan experienced a similar feudal period. During the Middle Ages, both lands had many qualities alike, but several of the differences were quite significant and made them each unique. Some of the main ideas which can be compared are the feudal hierarchy, the importance of land, and the code of the warriors. Whilst the middle Ages were a time of change, exploration and development for Europe, it was also a time for isolation, seclusion and continuity for Japan.
The feudal hierarchy was an organized way to keep order in both Japan and Europe. The King or Emperor was at the top and would provide land to Lords or Shoguns in exchange for an oath of loyalty and also for providing soldiers during battle (Docs #2, #4 and #5). The Lords or Shoguns provided Land and Peasants, to Knights or Daimyo in exchange for military service (Doc #1). The nobles also would provide a small portion of the land, shelter and protection to peasants in exchange for farming the land and providing food from the land supplied (Doc #3). One major difference between medieval Japan and medieval Europe is that in Japan, merchants were considered as the lowest class, because they did not produce their own goods but just traded them for expensive prices. Meanwhile, in Europe the peasants were at the bottom of the hierarchy. They had very few rights and were tied to the manor and could not leave without the Lord’s permission. In feudal times the amount of land that someone had, dictated their status on the social hierarchy and soon became equivalent to the amount of power, wealth and authority he had.
Land was extremely important during the middle ages and only wealthy people had large amounts (Doc #2). Manors were built up, and whole villages lived under the control of nobles. Farming dominated the lives of both European and Japanese peasants. They would be given a small patch of fields to farm for themselves, whilst the rest would be reserved for the crops of the Nobles (Doc #3 and #6.) The peasants would follow a yearly schedule of 3 fields, to allow the soil to absorb back its needed nutrients. The land usually had a castle keep, where the Nobles would live, as well as a river or a moat for water and fish. Manors were surrounded by strong stone walls, as their main purpose was to protect the inhabitants from invaders. An example of a difference is that, although in feudal Japan, the samurai swore fealty to their local lords (Doc #2,) the local lords did not give them any land of their own. Instead, they were given an income in the form of food produced by the serfs of the local lord. In contrast, European knights usually received a large area of land and a number of serfs to work on them.
The warriors, both knights in Europe and Samurai in Japan tried to keep peace within the lands, but they also kept their weaponry ready for use (Doc #8). During the course of the Middle Ages, both Japanese and European warriors began to experience changes in their social status and their essential responsibilities. In Japan, Samurai began to value life and the beauty of nature and were soon forced to give up their lands and take the positions of highly ranked government officials (Doc #6.) In Europe however, knights were becoming less and less important as time passed. This change occurred because Kings began to organize larger and better equipped armies (Doc #9.) Also another similarity would include, both European knights had chivalry and Japanese samurai had Bushido. These were both a set of rules that dictated the way that a true warrior must behave. Although these rules were not identical, many of the main ideas were present in both cultures.
Although both Europe and Japan independently created and developed an idea of feudalism during approximately the same period of time, both had many unique customs and traditions that made them very diverse, but also similar in many other ways. These differences and similarities could be found in many different ways, including The Feudal system, The Code Of The Warriors and also, The Importance Of Land.
i enjoy history 2
I think it looks very good.
A couple of things-
In Japan, Samurai began to value life and the beauty of nature and were soon forced to give up their lands and take the positions of highly ranked government officials (Doc #6) – You may want to expand that a little. After Tokugawa consolidated all of Japan under his Shogunate, many samurai were unemployed because there were no more battles to be fought. Many of them became merchants and craftsmen in the building expansion that followed, thus leading to several hundred years of an almost capitalist society.
During this same time, Europe expanded on their merchant class also as borders and kingdoms became more established. Although there were wars, there was also a great surge in building and exploration. This created more opportunities for trade and artisans.
What are peoples take on trading future draft picks and players in a non keeper league?
Our rules state teams can trade players and no mention of picks. One team is trying to trade AP and his 3rd round pick next year for B Jacobs and a 1st round pick the following year.The guy dropping AP is out of it this year and is hoping to position himself better for next year.
If it isnt a keeper league i dont think it should be allowed. I am commish of a keeper league and we can trade picks, and i play in a non keeper league and it would never be allowed in the non.
For Yu gi oh experts: What do you think of my Dragon Master Of Ultimate Destruction Deck?
(monster)
3x Blue Eyes White Dragon
3x Hydrogeddon
1x Sangan
2x King of the swamp
2x The Light Hex Seal Fusion
1x Prime Material Dragon
1x Cyber Dragon
1x Tyrant Dragon
1x Spear Dragon
1x Black Luster Soldier
1x Paladin Of White Dragon
1x Lord of D.
2x Manju of the Ten Thousand of hands
1x Kaibaman
(Spells)
2x Polymerization
2x Dragon’s Mirror
1x Advance Ritual Art
1x Trade In
1x Future Fusion
1x Lightning Vortex
1x White Dragon Ritual
1x De Fusion
1x Foolish Burial
1x Brain Control
1x Monster Reborn
(Traps)
1x Birthright
1x Malevolent Catastrophe
1x Magic Cylinder
1x Sakuretsu Armor
1x Return From The Different Dimension
1x Bottemless Trap Hole
1x Zero Gravity
(Fusions Monsters)
2x Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon
2x Dragon Master Knight
1x Cyber Twin Dragon
I am trying to make this deck tournament ready for a future tournament someday. I am trying to figure out what cards should i put in my side deck as well. When i practice using this deck be myself it works pretty good in practice but i want to make it better.
Here are some of my cards for a side deck for my main deck
1x Horus The Black Flame Dragon Lv 4
1x Horus The Black Flame Dragon Lv 6
1x The Flute Of Summoning Dragon
1x Smashing Ground
1x Heavy Storm
3x Masked Dragons
1x Ancient Rules
1x Pot Of Avarice
1x Black Luster Soldier
1x Sakuretsu Armor
1x Kaiser Seahorse
1x Dust Tornado
1x Spear Dragon
Which cards should i add to improve this deck that i listed above for a tournament someday?
dood that is teh best dragon master knoght deck i’v seen since a long time and taht thing is you are still not getting something right
for starteres cut out the following
1x White Dragon Ritual
1x De Fusion
1x Tyrant Dragon
1x Spear Dragon
1x Zero Gravity
1x Malevolent Catastrophe
1x Return From The Different Dimension
1x Lord of D.
1x Magic Cylinder
now put in these to make it better
2x ddr differend dimension reincarnation
2x bazoo the soul eater
2x trade in
1x smashing ground
1x cyber vally
2x five headed dragon (fusion)
1x foolish burial
1x sackrestu armmor or take teh other one out and put in 2 phinix wing wind blast
Are Politicians and Militarism the true builders and leaders of our world ? Who is ? and Why?
I think hard worker people working for their love ones are,
and all the good things come from the private sector (tv,computer, cars, kitchen, camaras, food,house……..and more).
But why some people and movies look like they want to politicians rule their lives and future…….? I cant hardly think a worst scenario………..
Politicians haven’t the capacity to lead whole societies anywhere. They are outclassed and outrun by trends in the world economy that are beyond the ability of the political class to control or direct. The market economy—globalized, enormously powerful, breathtaking in scope and breadth—is remaking the world in ways that far surpass any existing political development in the US, from the crafted blather of Congressional hearings on this or that to the mad rush to grab the presidential brass rings.
To understand the world being recreated before us, we must constantly keep this principle in our mind: trade based on ownership is always and everywhere mutually beneficial. Within the institution of trade—whether on the most local level or the global level—we find the key to peace, prosperity, and human flourishing. If we understand this, we have no reason to fear our fate except to the extent that anyone anywhere dares to interfere. If we understand this, we can see why being led into the future by the political class is something we should neither desire nor expect.
the teachers, doctors, scientist and counsellors are……… they make the world a better place………………
Is this a good example of how the system works today?
Noah 2007
In the year 2007, the Lord came unto Noah, who was now
living in the United States, and said, "Once again,
the earth has become wicked and over-populated, and I
see the end of all flesh before me.
Build another Ark and save 2 of every living thing
along with a few good humans."
He gave Noah the blueprints, saying, "You have 6
months to build the Ark before I will start the
unending rain for 40 days and 40 nights."
Six months later, the Lord looked down and saw Noah
weeping in his yard – but no Ark.
"Noah!" He roared , "I’m about to start the rain!
Where is the Ark?"
"Forgive me, Lord," begged Noah, "but things have
changed. I needed a building permit. I’ve been arguing
with the inspector about the need for a sprinkler
system. My neighbors claim that I’ve violated the
neighborhood zoning laws by building the Ark in my
yard and exceeding the height limitations. We had to
go to the Development Appeal Board for a decision.
"Then the Department of Transportation demanded a bond
be posted for the future costs of moving power lines
and other overhead obstructions, to clear the passage
for the Ark’s move to the sea. I told them that the
sea would be coming to us, but they would hear nothing
of it.
"Getting the wood was another problem. There’s a ban
on cutting local trees in order to save the spotted
owl. I tried to convince the environmentalists that I
needed the wood to save the owls – but no go!
"When I started gathering the animals, an animal
rights group sued me. They insisted that I was
confining wild animals against their will. They argued
the accommodation was too restrictive, and it was
cruel and inhumane to put so many animals in a
confined space.
"Then the EPA ruled that I couldn’t build the Ark
until they’d conducted an environmental impact study
on your proposed flood.
"I’m still trying to resolve a complaint with the
Human Rights Commission on how many minorities I’m
supposed to hire for my building crew. Immigration and
Naturalization are checking the green-card status of
most of the people who want to work. The trades unions
say I can’t use my sons. They insist I have to hire
only Union workers with Ark-building experience.
"To make matters worse, the IRS seized all my assets,
claiming I’m trying to leave the country illegally
with endangered species.
"So, forgive me, Lord, but it would take at least 10
years for me to finish this Ark."
Suddenly the skies cleared, the sun began to shine,
and a rainbow stretched across the sky. Noah looked up
in wonder and asked, "You mean you’re not going to
destroy the world?"
"No," said the Lord. "The government
ALREADY HAS DESTROYED IT.
Yes.
Unfortunately I get the point.
Do not lose heart,!… good preachers are not a dime a dozen!
Good story by the way.
Thank You for not tickling my ears.
I do vary much appreciate your Q&A’s. Thank You.
Bobalo9
Isn’t it hypocritical of Chinese communists to swindle the poorest western consumers with low quality goods?
For instance, most of the products they export are often quite shoddy and usually are made from inferior quality materials and parts that tend to break or wear out quickly.These products are cheaply priced only because the Chinese workers are little more than ill paid slaves forced to work long hours on factory production lines to serve the ‘glorious’ party. Their vast supply of cheap labour also causes a fall in market share and production of goods by western factories and therefore job losses for workers in these nations, also detracting from the ’liberation of the workers’ ethic which is the supposed virtuous core of socialism/communism. These circumstances actually denigrate the conditions in which western workers subsist since they have to work for less money to attempt to compete or just lose their jobs altogether.
I thought the whole concept of a ‘people’s revolutionary party’ and of communism/socialism was to eliminate this type of exploitation of the workers and to actually improve their lot by liberating them from the worst aspects of capitalism! (Selling inferior products to the worst paid of workers, since they are those most likely to buy these cheaply priced products, being an example indicative of the worst form of capitalistic greed).
The Chinese communist government are claiming to be leading a more open and consumerist nation, but I believe that by giving their people minor cultural freedoms that they are merely engaging in a temporary ruse to encourage and engage western governments as trading partners until their ultimate goal has been achieved, which is the same goal as every fascist dictorship- complete global domination.
If this is their way of re-enginering the ‘domino-theory’ and taking control of the world economy with the conclusion being to install a one world government under communist party rule, then the future looks bleak, especially since the governrments of the west surely are aware of the entire scheme, if not actively engaging in and promoting it too.
Thanks for all of your answers so far. I didn’t know the ‘plan’ had a timeline that stretched into the past for so long!
Someone once told me that JFK had entered into negotitations with China attempting to get the Chinese citizens some more freedoms and Mao simply responded to him, ‘Alright then, how about I give all of them passports?’ After which JFK stopped his requests.
As a rebuttal, to ‘oy’ – the point I’m trying to include is that the poorest of workers in the west who need an item usually must always purchase the cheapest, which is where the stranglehold of the Chinese products enters the market at its most poignant location.
In hindsight, maybe it’s better that we lose our sovereignty this way rather than have done to us what their army did in Tianamin square!
If the global economic crisis worsens and all trade freezes then I believe they will use military force to take the raw materials they previously imported.
You get what you pay for. If people are dumb enough to buy junk more than once because its cheap they probably deserve it.
hotpink – We have Clinton to thank for NAFTA.
Do you agree or disagree
This is about Aussie but will relate to many countries and their immigrants
Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to
>>>> Australia, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in
>>>> Sydney and be documented. Some would even get down on their hands and
>>>> knees and kiss the ground.
>>>>
>>>> They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in
>>>> good and bad times.
>>>>
>>>> They made learning English a primary rule in their new Australian
>>>> households, and some even changed their names to blend in with their
>>>> new home. They had waved good bye to their birth place to give their
>>>> children a new life and did everything in their power to help their
>>>> children assimilate into one culture. Nothing was handed to them.
>>>>
>>>> No free lunches, no welfare, no labour laws to protect them.
>>>>
>>>> All they had were the skills, craftsmanship and desire they had
>>>> brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity.
>>>>
>>>> Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out.
>>>> Australians fought along side men whose parents had come straight over
>>>> from Germany, Italy, France, Japan, Czechoslovakia, Russia, Sweden,
>>>> and so many other places. None of these first generation Australians
>>>> ever gave any thought about what country their parents had come from.
>>>>
>>>> They were Australians fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor of
>>>> Japan*.*
>>>>
>>>> * They were defending the Freedom as one people.*
>>>>
>>>> * When we liberated France, no one in those villages was looking for
>>>> the*
>>>> * people of France, they saw only Australians. And we carried one flag*
>>>> * that represented our country.*
>>>>
>>>> * Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking up*
>>>> * another country’s flag and waving it to represent who they were, or*
>>>> * where they or their parents originally came from.*
>>>>
>>>> * It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had sacrificed so*
>>>> * much to be here. These immigrants truly knew what it meant to be a*
>>>> * Australian.*
>>>>
>>>> * And here we are in 2007 with a new kind of immigrant who wants the*
>>>> * same rights and privileges. Only they want to achieve it by playing*
>>>> * with a different set of rules, one that includes an Australian*
>>>> * passport and a guarantee of being faithful to the country they*
>>>> * deliberately left. BUT, that is not what being a Australian is all*
>>>> * about.*
>>>>
>>>> * Australians have been very open hearted and open minded regarding*
>>>> * immigrants, whether they were fleeing poverty, dictatorship,*
>>>> * persecution, or whatever else makes a person adopt a foreign*
>>>> * country.And I suppose when we say adopt, we think of those*
>>>> * aforementioned immigrants who truly did ADOPT our country, and our*
>>>> * flag and our morals and our customs. And left their wars, hatred,
>>>> and*
>>>> * divisions behind.*
>>>>
>>>> * I believe that the immigrants who landed in Australia in the early*
>>>> * 1900′s deserve better than that for the toil, hard work and
>>>> sacrifice*
>>>> * in raising future generations to create a land that has become a*
>>>> * beacon for those legally searching for a better life.*
>>>>
>>>> * I believe they would be appalled that they are being used as an*
>>>> * example by those waving foreign country flags, fighting foreign*
>>>> * battles on our soil, trying their hardest to making Australians
>>>> change*
>>>> * to suit their religions and cultures, and wanting to change our*
>>>> * country’s fabric by claiming discrimination when we do not give in
>>>> to*
>>>> * their demands.*
>>>>
To shorten or summarise this would detract from the message, Either read it or go away
To those who want it shortened or summarized I quote a American military commander D Day WW2 when the Germans advised him to surrender and he replied "Nuts"!!!!!
Hi mate brings back the memory of the highland clearance where us scots were sent away across the sea fought and died for their new found country and accepted it as their home
IMMAGRATION-Isn’t this true?
Written in
response to a series of letters to the editor in the Orange County Register :
Dear Editor:
So many letter writers have based their arguments on how this land is made up of immigrants. Ernie Lujan for one, suggests we should tear down the Statue of Liberty because the people now in question aren’t being treated the same as those who passed through Ellis Island and other ports of entry
Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out to people like Mr. Lujan why today’s American is not willing to accept this new kind of immigrant any longer. Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to the United States, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in New York and be documented. Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground. They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times. They made learning English a primary rule in their new American households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home.
They had waved good bye to their birth place to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture.
Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labor laws to protect them. All they had were the skills and craftsmanship they had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity. Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out. My father fought along side men whose parents had come straight over from Germany , Italy , France and Japan None of these 1st generation Americans ever gave any thought about what country their parents had come from. They were Americans fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan . They were defending the United States of America as one people. When we liberated France , no one in those villages were looking for the French-American or the German American or the Irish American. The people of France saw only Americans. And we carried one flag that represented one country. Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country’s flag and waving it to represent who they were. It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants truly knew what it meant to be an American. They stirred the melting pot into one red, white and blue bowl.
And here we are in 2009 with a new kind of immigrant who wants the same rights and privileges. Only they want to achieve it by playing with a different set of rules, one that includes the entitlement card and a guarantee of being faithful to their mother country. I’m sorry, that’s not what being an American is all about. I believe that the immigrants who landed on Ellis Island in the early 1900′s deserve better than that for all the toil, hard work and sacrifice in raising future generations to create a land that has become a beacon for those legally searching for a better life. I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an example by those waving foreign country flags.
And for that suggestion about taking down the Statue of Liberty , it happens to mean a lot to the citizens who are voting on the immigration bill. I wouldn’t start talking about dismantling the United States just yet.
(signed) Rosemary LaBonte
MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA
That was a great article. I still find it funny to see people with a short attention span complaining about something that goes longer than a few sentences, though.
You made a very comparison of those that came here legally and those that choose to violate the laws of our country just to get a better life for themselves and their family back in their country of origin without abiding by the laws here and assimilating as they should.
Looking for a quality forex robot. Any suggestions?
I recently started reading about forex robots that do forex trading for you and make profits as a result. I decided that this was interesting enough to investigate further.
Basically, I have seen a number of these robots on the internet, all of which have been highly recommended by various sources. Can anyone recommend a forex robot that would work well for me?
If I do decide to do automated forex trading, I can only give an initial investment of about $200, so it has to be a robot that can work with small deposits. Also, I would prefer this robot to be fully automated, though I’m open to accepting robots which require some management. If the robot is free, I would also prefer that, though I don’t mind paying for it (why do these people need to charge money for a system that is used to make an income?). While I’m at it, can anyone suggest a forex trader that will accept a deposit that small, allows trial runs on a free account, is registered with the NFA (http://www.nfa.futures.org/ ) and the CFTC (http://www.cftc.gov/ ) and is compatible with the selected robot?
So that is my question. I am aware that there are people that will try to use their answer to promote the product of their choice (even if it means lying) and will earn some commission when I purchase the robot. So I have to set some rules for the answers provided here:
No Affiliate links or links to sites with affiliate links,
No redirect pages
No testimonies from people who haven’t used the forex robot mentioned in their answer.
I already know where some of the more well known forex robots are found and a search engine can probably find me the rest. As a result of these rules, there is no reason for anyone to give a glowing testimony they would usually use to sell the robot, since said people aren’t allowed to use affiliate links and hence can’t earn commission from a sale. If you need to put a link to the forex robot’s main web page, use the actual page’s address instead of one with your affiliate link in it. And don’t put the link to the page in a redirect link (such as Tiny URL.com) because that can be used to hide an affiliate link.
The third rule also applies to people who haven’t used forex robots because they think they are scams. I would prefer answers from people that have genuinely used a robot and can share their real experiences with it.
So that is my question. I say thank you to everyone who decides to answer my question.
http://bizsolbiz.com
i hope that resolve your problem.
It didn’t! It’s a search engine.
http://bizsolbiz.com
i hope that resolve your problem.
- Unfortunately it didn’t help me! It appears to be a search engine and the only info on Forex I found was one paragraph with no link to products or more info.
@Gobbler
- Like I said in my question, I would prefer a negative answer from someone who has actually had a bad experience with forex robots. The reason for this is that you, for example, might say that forex robots are scams when in reality, they are actually real money makers. And because someone like you scared me off with a negative opinion, I never get to utilise this income opportunity. I agree that there are scams that are labelled as legitimate income opportunuites, but on the other hand, the same logic holds that there are legitimate income opportunuites that might get labelled as scams.
no robots trading .honestly they dont work.
my advise is use any auto trading strategy.now a days forex yard started auto trading strategy by proffessionals. u can find here more use full info about it
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- Thank you for that. Have you personally used a forex robot? As for forex yard, your link was a bit unclear as to what it actually involves. I know that forex robots interact with your forex account to buy and sell forex for you at a profit. How does forex yard do automatic trading though? Could you please provide me with more info in this regard?
@Advisor
Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately, the website you linked to has an affiliate link (most likely yours) to the product’s page. I clearly said, "No Affiliate links or links to sites with affiliate links", which you have done in your answer.
You are correct, I am a careful person. That is why I now have serious concerns about the quality of your answer. Not eligible for Best Answer award!
@Livermore
The best recommendation I can give you is this one: Forget Forex Robots. They are useless.
- Do you say that forex robots are useless because you have used some and they didn’t work or because you have made an assumption? Please provide evidence that they are useless. That goes for Jack as well.
Just some more comments for Julie:
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- You do have a point there.
2: That’s why I made the "No affiliate links" rule. That way, their lies won’t earn them a commission. In fact, I just dismissed one answer here because they put an affiliate link in their answer. There is no way I am going to trust their answer, even if the affiliate link is removed.
3: That might be correct as well. In their defense though, it is common knowledge that you should test the forex robot on a demo account before you invest real money into it. Hence, the people who use the robot should have more than enough warning that it doesn’t work before they start bragging about their sucesses.
4: Could just be a marketing technique. They go to any measure to convince people that their product is the best, even if it means lying about their competitors.
5: That’s why this question exists, to get that proof. Furthermore, can you please share the details for the forex robots you HAVE tried in the past?
The best recommendation I can give you is this one: Forget Forex Robots. They are useless. If you want to make money in Forex, work on it and develop your own trading system.